Patti Smith on How She Came to Love Substack: ‘I Like the Idea That the Reader Hangs Out With the Writer’

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Patti Smith on How She Came to Love Substack: ‘I Like the Idea That the Reader Hangs Out With the Writer’
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When Patti Smith joined Substack — the now-five-year-old online platform that publishes and pays writers on a subscription model — the poet, author and Rock and Roll Hall of Famer had been stuck at…

— the now-five-year-old online platform that publishes and pays writers on a subscription model — the poet, author and Rock and Roll Hall of Famer had been stuck at home in New York City after having canceled a world tour due to COVID.

At the Ukraine-Russia conflict’s start, your Substack featured you reading colloquial poet William Carlos Williams’ “Peach on Earth,” a poem highlighted by his “gold and blue” hues, surely in dedication to the Ukraine. Is this your prayer for the Ukrainian people? Were you looking to Williams’ perfect words on the subject of peace?

Exactly. I wanted to find an anti-war poem, and ran across Williams’ words — something abstract that was symbolic of our thoughts and down to, as you noticed, the colors of the Ukraine. It’s very subtle, but it’s there. I didn’t realize that until I was getting ready to record it… I was moved by that.

You mentioned Instagram along with Substack. Pandemic or not, were you looking for social outreach, a way to get your ideas out there in a fashion that didn’t involve record labels, DSPs or publishers? That familial exciting mess goes back to how some of us know you. I can recall being in your fan club early in your career, and having your mom and sister send out your high school graduation photos as part of the club’s bonuses.Your Substack, now, though, finds you displaying the coffee mug that Johnny Depp gave you, or you hanging out with your cat, or pointing out tchotchkes in the space where you’re working. We feel like we’re walking around your apartment when we watch your Substack.

I’m not a good person to ask about money. My main thing is the quality of the work. I know that I have a good name, but I’ve never had a gold record. I’ve never sold many records. I’ve never gotten royalties. I remember one check in the 1970s for $120. It’s only been recently with the multitude of ways of checking things that I’m getting royalties. I just know that I did work that I liked. If it wasn’t for the fact that I had children that I’d like to help after I’m gone, I wouldn’t care.

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