LIVE: Mbalula cried during 'tense discussion about Guptas' in 2011 NEC meeting - Manuel testifies at StateCaptureInquiry
Manuel: there was speculation, banter even saying some were Gupta Minister. He says Mblalula's confession broke the mould, confirmed that these things were happening.Manuel: at that time there was a climate where it seemed certain individuals were invited to Saxonwold, says Mbalula was the first to make a declaration of how he had been appointed.Manuel says he doesn't think Mbalula triggered the discussion, but there were talks about the president failing to exercise his power.
Gcabashe trying to figure out if Mbalula's contribution is what sparked the conversation around the Guptas or if it happened in the middle of discussions about the Guptas. Manuel can't fully remember.Area of disputes here.... Manuel, doesnt know which brother spoke to Mbalula. Saxonwold Versus the Gupta's Sahara computers offices in Midrand.
Manuel says Mbalula was told he would be minister, excited that he made it in Cabinet but in retrospect realised that was the prerogative of the president, this was violated as he was told of his appointment by the Guptas.He says what started out as a political overview there was a wide discussion, something that emerged from the floor... no resolution but its important that the issues were raised freely.
Manuel says Mbalula moving from deputy minister into a Cabinet position - what he articulated in the NEC, he said he was called to Saxonwold to be told by the Guptas.
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