Listen: Anthony McCarten on Writing ‘The Two Popes,’ a Movie About ‘Two Old Guys in Dresses Talking About God’

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Listen: Anthony McCarten on Writing ‘The Two Popes,’ a Movie About ‘Two Old Guys in Dresses Talking About God’
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🎧 Listen: Anthony McCarten on writing TheTwoPopes, a movie about 'two old guys in dresses talking about God'

film starring Anthony Hopkins as Pope Benedict and Jonathan Pryce as the Argentinian cardinal now known as Pope Francis. The film imagines a series of conversations between the two men as Pope Benedict reveals that he is going to resign.No surprise, but McCarten didn’t have any access to the actual popes. “They didn’t supply me with a giant key or anything like I got an entry to the walled city,” McCarten said.

McCarten insists he’s already won. “Audiences are responding in an unbelievably cool way,” he said. At one screening, a man fell into McCarten’s arms with tears streaming down his face. “We had about 20 people who you wanted to say to them, ‘Don’t drive home in this condition. Sit down for 10 minutes,’” McCarten recalled.

Besides, McCarten added, he’s changed since the first time he did the awards circuit. “I have a relaxation that I didn’t have,” he explained. “I was very anxious and quite competitive and I’m from a very large family and I’m quite a competitive person. So I remember the first go around, I bought into it. I was really wanting to win. [But] it can overwhelm you. It’s not good. It’s not good. It doesn’t bring out the best side of your nature. It’s not good for your creativity.

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