President Joe Biden rarely gives network interviews, and when he sat down in the MSNBC studio on Thursday, it came at an especially busy time, with the Supreme Court having just overturned the use of affirmative action in college admissions and in the aftermath of a revolt in Russia.
The nearly 20-minute conversation addressed those matters. But it also veered heavily into topics like criticism of the media and light-hearted discussion of the late Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, who was a friend of Biden's.
"The president of the United States is here. Really. At the table," Wallace began, before telling Biden, "This is very exciting for us." Biden responded, "It's exciting for me." The president then spoke at length about the media, saying, "This is not a criticism of the press. It's an observation. There's a lot to be worried about around the world, and talking to a lot of reporters, they tell me -- I'm going to be careful what I say here -- a number of reporters have indicated that there's no editors anymore, on what they do."
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