.FrankFigliuzzi1: Former Oath Keeper testifies that America was “exceedingly lucky” that there wasn’t even more violence on Jan. 6. Listen, too, when he tells you what can happen if the former president becomes president again.
Maybe. All evidence indicates that Trump fully knew and understood that there was no basis for his claims that the election was stolen and knew and understood that he was ginning up an angry mob of conspiracy theorists to storm the election and try to overturn the election.
Trump explicitly and implicitly told far right militia groups, the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, that they must do something to “stop the steal” of the election. The group of people who stormed the Capitol were sent there by Trump. Jason Van Tatenhove, a former spokesperson for the Oath Keepers, testified that we were essentially on the brink of a civil war. Capitol rioter Stephen Ayers testified that if Trump had told them to leave, they would have. Meaning Trump sent them there and could have sent them away.provisions.
Had Cipollone simply decided on his own volition not to stay, there would be no basis to assert any privilege. Nor would he likely have any grounds to claim privilege based on conversations with other White House personnel, especially given that Jason Miller, who wasa White House aide at that time, has previously testified that Cipollone conveyed to Miller that he thought Eastman’s theories were wacky.
Instead, it appears that Trump himself shut the White House counsel out of a meeting where most presidents would want the most qualified, thoughtful lawyers to advise them: a high-stakes debate over the constitutional duties of the vice president. Exactly why Trump did that is murky, but the optics of his removing Cipollone, elevating Eastman, and attempting to coerce Pence are clear — and terrible.
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